On The DMZ: Obama's "you didn't build that"—major gaffe or out-of-context quote? Is this the start of a real debate about the direction of the country? Matt and Bill consider whether promoting the "rugged individualist" theme is a political winner. Matt argue that liberalism is like going to visit your grandparents. But while he thinks conservatism is more exciting, he admits that Bill's vision of a liberal utopia sounds appealing.