On the first episode of Fireside Chats, Mark and William Voegeli, author of the book Never Enough, talk about whether liberalism sets any limits to the scope of the welfare state. Bill's book inspires a series of provocative questions: Is health care the end of the liberal project, or are there always "more dragons to slay"? Are liberals willing to advocate higher taxes on the middle class to support the level of government they want? Can entitlements ever be cut? Finally, Bill hits Mark with an "ambush question": is he trying to trick conservatives into joining a rigged game?