Michael and Freddy talk about the "new" Tory party and David Cameron's (almost embarrassing) love for Barack Obama. They move on to discussing the appeal of the Big Society, and whether it is a revolutionary idea or an empty slogan. Is the "special relationship" between the US and the UK more like a dysfunctional one? Michael admires the British style of journalism that lacks America's pieties about the powerful. They close with Michael asking Freddy about Britain's stance toward the now faltering European project, and whether the future of Toryism is articulating what it means for Britain to remain independent.