On Fireside Chats, Mike talks with Aaron about the campus protest origins of the Occupy movement. They discuss the recently released report on the pepper-spraying of UC Davis students and what it says about how universities are changing. They then examine how James Q. Wilson’s famous essay “Broken Windows” has transformed the way policing is done. They segue into analyzing capitalism and class in The Wire. Finally, Aaron discusses Teddy Roosevelt as a possible role-model for President Obama, and the weird way Roosevelt appeals to both red state and blue state mythology.