Reniqua lays out the argument she made in a recent
op-ed lamenting the state of America’s conversation about race
and urging President Obama to talk more about the subject. Pushing back against her thesis, Conor argues that President Obama is the wrong man
to lead such a conversation. He also claims that for all his eloquent rhetoric, Obama’s substantive record
on issues with a racial dynamic isn’t strong. Reniqua talks about her frequent frustration with being the only black person
in a room full of white people. They next give different versions of the racial conversation
they’d like to see more of in America and grapple with the tension
between embracing multiculturalism and creating self-segregation.