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Jillian C. York (Electronic Frontier Foundation, JillianCYork.com) and Katherine Maher (Wikimedia Foundation)

On the debut episode of Interrobang‽, Jillian and Katherine discuss how the government shutdown is affecting national security, especially in airports. Are we witnessing the end of the nation-state in the Middle East? Why is the emerging culture of tech intellectuals so dominated by white men? How did Brazil become the front line of resistance to NSA surveillance? And why is it so hard to mobilize the American public on this issue? Plus: Glenn Greenwald‘s big news.

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Recorded:Oct 15    Posted:Oct 16, 2013
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Interrobang‽ | Oct 16, 2013 | Jillian C. York & Katherine Maher

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