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Birds of a Feather
Recorded: June 10  Posted: June 18
otto wrote on 06/18/2008 at 04:56 PM
Sorts of Sorts
On the one hand, like-minded people tend to cluster. On the other, people now share comment threads at Bh.tv or unfogged with wild-eyed loons with bizarre political views from who knows were.
ohcomeon wrote on 06/18/2008 at 05:11 PM
Re: Birds of a Feather
A divalog from my home town. The temp is supposed to be 102 here today BTW.
Wonderment wrote on 06/18/2008 at 05:53 PM
Re: Birds of a Feather
We're also at 100, but it's supposed to get hot tomorrow and Thursday 
The good news is that I'm 10 miles from the beach and it's 75 there. On that note, I'm outta here.
ohcomeon wrote on 06/18/2008 at 06:05 PM
Re: Birds of a Feather
Alas, no beach for me till August. However, I have set up a large kiddie pool under the trees in my yard. Each evening I set my laptop in a chair, grab a glass of wine and watch videos or BHTV. White trash meets the internet age. Life is good.
Wonderment wrote on 06/18/2008 at 08:48 PM
Re: Birds of a Feather
Each evening I set my laptop in a chair, grab a glass of wine and watch videos or BHTV. Nice.
dankingbooks wrote on 06/18/2008 at 10:04 PM
The Bell Curve Revisited
I first read a variant of this thesis in Murray and Herrnstein's infamous book, "The Bell Curve". Then it was called "the Herrnstein centrifuge", which states that smart people will collect in places like Cambridge, MA or Berkeley, CA. Thus there will be a sorting by IQ. It sounds to me that Bill Bishop's thesis is essentially the same.
I didn't disagree with Herrnstein then, and I don't disagree with Bishop today. But I'm not totally sure it's relevant, as I think the whole effect may be swamped out. Murray opens his book with the very smart girl who grew up from Kansas, and then moves to Massachusetts to attend Harvard, never to go home again. What Murray doesn't mention is the boy who stays in Kansas is more likely to have more children than his academic sister at Harvard. She, in the worst case, becomes a feminist and has no children at all. So I'm not sure the secular, cosmopolitan, urban, blue precincts can survive. The future, sadly, belongs to Mormons, Mennonites, Muslims & Mexicans, rather than post-modern college professors.
By the way, check out my new blog: http://www.geographicalthoughts.blogspot.com/
Wonderment wrote on 06/18/2008 at 10:15 PM
Re: The Bell Curve Revisited
The future, sadly, belongs to Mormons, Mennonites, Muslims & Mexicans, rather than post-modern college professors. What do you find sad about Mexicans? Or Mormons, Mennonites and Muslims for that matter? Some of my best friends are post-modern Mexican college professors.
dankingbooks wrote on 06/18/2008 at 10:18 PM
Re: The Bell Curve Revisited
Quoting Wonderment: What do you find sad about Mexicans? Or Mormons, Mennonites and Muslims for that matter? Some of my best friends are post-modern Mexican college professors. I have nothing against Mexicans - I rather agree with John McCain on immigration issues. Their chief virtue in this context is that they alliterate.
Seriously, I like secular society, and some of my best friends are post-modern college professors. I will be sad if it disappears.
bkjazfan wrote on 06/18/2008 at 10:36 PM
Re: Birds of a Feather
I live in the county of Los Angeles in this seeming vast of array of diversity but do notice the "birds of a feather flock together" in the various population concentrations.
I live in Hawthorne which according to the census is 40% Hispanic, 33%black, and 29% white. So, I ask myself where are the Asians who are now 10% of the county's pop. surpassing the black pop.at 8% (lots of articles about their declining numbers and political clout)? Well, they are clustered next to me in Gardena where there has been a Japanese American pop. for ages and newly arrived immigrants.
Now, Hawthorne used to be more economically vibrant with the once booming aerospace industry but seems to have fallen on tough times. I bet that no more than 10% of the people who reside here have BA degrees. By the way, what happened to BS degrees? When I was in the army in a headquarters company with most everyone having a degree the going argument was that those with BA's were pussies according to the ones with BS's. This one guy had a BA in art and he really got ribbed. Here I was with a high school diploma and no
ogieogie wrote on 06/18/2008 at 11:14 PM
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I have a BS in Education, which is by no means a science, but an MA in Linguistics, which is certainly not an art. (Of course "BS" in its other sense is a fine description of an education degree.)
bkjazfan wrote on 06/18/2008 at 11:30 PM
Re: The Bell Curve Revisited
Ok, I did a cursory search of Mennonite churches in Los Angles County and found only a few. So, if part of the future belongs to them where are they? Also, the LDS Church has been on the decline here. However, I know where they are, Utah and surrounding areas.
There is a cultural footnote I failed to mention about Hawthorne, California. It's the original home of the Beach Boys singing group. I've visited the memorial statue deal in their honor - it's quite nice. The 105 freeway took out the house they grew up in (Wilson's). I'm sure the remaining members are living in a more gentrified area now.
John
bkjazfan wrote on 06/18/2008 at 11:39 PM
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Quoting ogieogie: I have a BS in Education, which is by no means a science, but an MA in Linguistics, which is certainly not an art. (Of course "BS" in its other sense is a fine description of an education degree.) Move to Austin and make it 49%. The more the merrier.
John
Baltimoron wrote on 06/20/2008 at 02:05 AM
Re: Birds of a Feather
First and last, thank you bhTV for taking a break from the episodic, horse race politics diavlogs to post what is arguably more important than fleeting, kaleidoscopic opining and navel-gazing.
This diavlog thrust out of the shadows the structural electoral issue of gerrymandering, and mixed it up with demographics. This is one of the few diavlogs I have to listen to again, and might even buy the book. So, my question is, how will these demographic trends toward clustering affect the decennial census? I recall there was a statement about how counties are permanent, but not districts.
Thanks again!

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