Lets agree "probable" Zelaya supporters taking actions like this:
http://momento24.com/en/2009/10/26/h...of-micheletti/ Is not a way to soften the heart and resolve of Roberto Micheletti to keep Zelaya out.
Smart move guys, real smart. This one is tough for me. I am with the ouster in spirit, but not way it occurred. This would have been so much easier if there was a California style recall option. On matters at this level I am not one of these legalistic moral types either, believing whatever is right and proper, is what is legal, no matter what. It is like a FAR milder version of having a forced coup of a guy like Kim Jung Il, but at least in that case his rise to power would not have been legitimized by an election. Maybe Hugo Chavez is a better analogy, elected, at least at one time... maybe. But his rule sees such wanton disregard of law and justice, what do you do? If a coup is not technically legal, would it be right against a head of state like a Chavez? To the what is legal, by definition, is what is right crowd, the answer must always be a NO, if not following the

Quoting JonIrenicus: Lets agree "probable" Zelaya supporters taking
This one is tough for me. I am with the ouster in spirit, but not way it occurred. This would have been so much easier if there was a California style recall option. On matters at this level I am not one of these legalistic moral types either, believing whatever is right and proper, is what is legal, no matter what.

It is like a FAR milder version of having a forced coup of a guy like Kim Jung Il, but at least in that case his rise to power would not have been legitimized by an election. Maybe Hugo Chavez is a better analogy, elected, at least at one time... maybe. But his rule sees such wanton disregard of law and justice, what do you do? If a coup is not technically legal, would it be right against a head of state like a Chavez?

To the what is legal, by definition, is what is right crowd, the answer must always be a NO, if not following the letter of the law. (btw as a semi neocon, legalistic arguments drove me insane concerning Iraq)

Sorry to burst your bubble, but if the Honduran

Time for Ban Ki Moon (or, shudder, Bono?) to negotiate a peace between Goldberg and Matthew Lee? They haven't appeared together since August 1st! What's going on? I miss that matchup.

Quoting Branigan: Sorry to burst your bubble, but if the Honduran oligarchy had tried to recall Zelaya through a democratic election, they would have lost, just like the Venezuelan oligarchy lost when they tried to recall Chavez. Of course, the reason why recall is available in Venezuela and not Honduras is because they rewrote their constitution to make it more democratic, the same thing that the Honduran people are trying to do now and this entire coup is in reaction to.

Wrong "Ever since Manuel Zelaya was removed from the Honduran presidency by that country's Supreme Court and Congress on June 28 for violations of the constitution, the Obama administration has insisted, without any legal basis, that the incident amounts to a "coup d'état" and must be reversed. President Obama has dealt harshly with Honduras, and Americans have been asked to trust their president's proclamations.

Now a report filed at the Library of Congress by the Congressional Research Service (CRS) provides what the administration has not offered, a serious legal review of the facts. "Available sources indicate that the judicial and legislative branches applied constitutional and statutory law in the case

Quoting harkin: Wrong

"Ever since Manuel Zelaya was removed from the Honduran presidency by that country's Supreme Court and Congress on June 28 for violations of the constitution, the Obama administration has insisted, without any legal basis, that the incident amounts to a "coup d'état" and must be reversed. President Obama has dealt harshly with Honduras, and Americans have been asked to trust their president's proclamations.

Now a report filed at the Library of Congress by the Congressional Research Service (CRS) provides what the administration has not offered, a serious legal review of the facts. "Available sources indicate that the judicial and legislative branches applied constitutional and statutory law in the case against President Zelaya in a manner that was judged by the Honduran authorities from both branches of the government to be in accordance with the Honduran legal system," writes CRS senior foreign law specialist Norma C. Gutierrez in her report."

and

"Doesn’t anyone care that it was Zelaya who violated the Honduran Constitution? Doesn’t anyone know that the Honduran Constitution does not have an impeachment clause, and that removal by force of arms was the only option left

I wish they'd go further and hand more private media outlets over to communities to run, because I don't think freedom of the press means the freedom of capital to own the press.

You ought to rethink that one. You don't have to be a fan of corporate mass media to know that a government shutdown of the press is a very very bad idea.

Quoting Wonderment: You ought to rethink that one. You don't have to be a fan of corporate mass media to know that a government shutdown of the press is a very very bad idea.

It's not the government shutting down the press. The media outlets (which, again, are in violation of the law) aren't being taken over by the state media, they're being given over to the community to run. You can say that you aren't a fan of the corporate mass media, but what's your alternative? If you don't have one then in the end you're supporting the status quo.