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Free Will: Endorsing Cynicism
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Recorded: February 1 Posted: February 4
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testostyrannical wrote on 02/04/2008  at  10:11 AM
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If he's a Matt, he probably shouldn't be a "Mark" in the green byline section, eh?
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JLF wrote on 02/04/2008  at  11:03 AM
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These two guys are evidence of the proposition that libertarianism is appealing almost exclusively to the social/economic affluent.
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piscivorous wrote on 02/04/2008  at  12:34 PM
Serving others
Will usually does an excellent job with his interview style but in this one he was more of advocate than interviewer, not that I have a problem of advocacy, it just seemed to be piling on in this diavlog instead of his normal persona of impartial seeker. Will's characterizing McCain's advocacy of "serving a cause greater than ones self" as militaristic is a shallow interpretation of this. Yes the services reflect this point of view but then again so does President Kennedy's Peace Corp or Americacorps as does volunteerism and charity in general.
Can private individual capitalist also minister to the concept of ""serving a cause greater than ones self?" There is no doubt that they have and still do. American history is replete with examples of the pillars of capitalism doing just that with Bill Gates and Warren Buffet being the latest and greatest examples of this desire inherent in this concept. Is McCain playing games with some of his rhetoric? You bet he is. But then again that's politics and had the left own arguments of the "evil of capitalists" not been so widely disseminated the power of McCain's argument would find considerable less fertile ground to grow.
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mojomojo wrote on 02/04/2008  at  01:02 PM
Cool Hand Luke He Ain't
I don't think I have ever heard McCain described as cool before. To me, he seems about as fun as a sack of hammers.
Nevertheless, after 15 years of guys we would most like to have a beer with, maybe we need to change our categories of evaluation.
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bjkeefe wrote on 02/04/2008  at  01:33 PM
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An out-and-out hatchet job, but now that Rudy's out of the running, I can't think of anyone who deserves it more. It's about time someone started pushing back against the MSM's endless crush on McCain. The "maverick" thing is as phony as Bush's "guy you want to have a beer with" image.
I'm sick of so many people getting this so consistently wrong, especially because it causes "independents"* to vote exactly wrong. Don't know why this link was omitted from the sidebar,** but it's worth a look, if you missed this key point during the diavlog.
Nice work, Matt. Keep it up.
The rest of you: never forget.
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* Read: the even-more-clueless-than-average voters
** And what is up with all those book links in the sidebar? Is this the new revenue model -- referral fees from Amazon?
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mojomojo wrote on 02/04/2008  at  01:36 PM
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And Matt Welch is much better on Heroes.
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piscivorous wrote on 02/04/2008  at  02:49 PM
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Quoting bjkeefe: An out-and-out hatchet job, ...
I'm congratulate you for being willing to admit the biased nature of the diavlog though I don't believe that you would be so supportive if a "hatchet job" was directed at a candidate of your choosing. However it is politics so let the slings and arrows fly it makes for interesting entertainment.
Quoting bjkeefe: I'm sick of so many people getting this so consistently wrong, especially because it causes "independents"* to vote exactly wrong.
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* Read: the even-more-clueless-than-average voters
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Why is it that when individuals who support a particular issue or point of view loose, in a free and fair marketplace of ideas and, through the populaces expression called an election blame it on the "even-more-clueless-than-average voters" as opposed to the failure of their particular positions or point of view to garner enough support to prevail. Perhaps it actually should produce a reexamination of the beliefs by the looser as to the problems with their points of view so as to bring them more in line with what they can actually sell to the general populace. I know of no one that can eat an apple in one bite.
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david_d wrote on 02/04/2008  at  03:29 PM
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The fifth member of the Keating quintet that Matt forgot was the eminently forgettable Donald Riegle of Wisconsin. Just for the record.
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bjkeefe wrote on 02/04/2008  at  03:30 PM
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pisc:
My use of "clueless" refers to voters who choose candidates who are directly opposite to their own interests. It is not a matter of ideology. (People with the wrong ideology are "wingnuts.")
I do not consider people who vote for candidates that reflect their interests "clueless," even if I disagree with them. For example, I know quite a few people who voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004, and then began to regret their choices shortly afterward. But the reasons they had for voting to re-elect were plausible; e.g., they felt Bush was better against terrorism, or they wanted to keep their tax cuts, or they believed in the Iraq invasion, or whatever. I wouldn't call such voters clueless.
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bjkeefe wrote on 02/04/2008  at  03:31 PM
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Quoting david_d: The fifth member of the Keating quintet that Matt forgot was the eminently forgettable Donald Riegle of Wisconsin. Just for the record.
If you looked that up, I thank you. If you knew it off the top of your head, I also bow down to you.
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piscivorous wrote on 02/04/2008  at  03:51 PM
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While I know one or two voters that are single interest voters and will vote for the candidate that supports their single interest irregardless of the candidates other points of view. I agree that this makes little sense. Other than these single issue voters the vast majority vote based on a compendium of issues variously weighted.
I've been voting since the sixties and I don't believe that there has ever been a candidate that lines up with my views and desires 100%. Some of those that I have voted for have held some views 180 degrees to what I considered in myself interest; generally my vote has gone to the candidate that, in my less than perfect judgment, on balance represented my personal interests.
I can understand your frustration, with the last couple of presidential elections, as the results weren't amenable to the priorities that you would consider important and of highest weight. But I hardly think that the extremes of either the left or right (often the single issue voters) dictate the outcomes as they tend to balance each other out and it is the very "independents" that decide the
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Wonderment wrote on 02/04/2008  at  04:15 PM
Hatchet job and Matt's advice to the horny
I had read Matt's op ed in the LA Times and was grateful to him for exposing McCain as the hypocrite, caricature of machismo and crazy old man that he is.
Of a terribly dangerous bunch of Republican candidates, McCain scares me the most. We've got into a colossal mess with a pack of chicken hawk warmongers, but we could really got into a huge irreversible mess with a gung ho 100-years-in-Iraq, Ba-ba-bam-Iran superhawk.
Not sure if I agree with Matt's sexology insight -- "Apologizing is a great way to get laid," but I'll file it away for future reference.
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bjkeefe wrote on 02/04/2008  at  05:04 PM
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Wonderment:
Not sure if I agree with Matt's sexology insight -- "Apologizing is a great way to get laid," but I'll file it away for future reference.
No, I know what he meant by that. There was a certain type of guy that I knew while growing up who could always and repeatedly get away with being a total asshole one day and begging forgiveness the next, and the amount and quality of women who would fall for it never failed to distress me. I'm not saying I was ever a saint, but usually, if I screwed up more than a couple of times with the same woman, I'd be too ... embarrassed? Something ... to try to talk my way out yet again.
Of course, now that I'm older, wiser, and much more mature, I no longer have any need to apologize for anything.
Which explains the endless streams of brilliant hotties coursing through my house.




uncle ebeneezer: What does it really mean? 

uncle ebeneezer: Is Tom purposely trying to steer interest away from his profession? 

themightypuck: Bob the Baptist comes out. 

uncle ebeneezer: Will formulates a scenario where the terrorists, literally, win! 

sapeye: Hmmm, is Bob guilty of serious stereotyping? 

Stapler Malone: No, Bob. It’s not. Nothing ever is.  

d7greene: Lawrence Lessig knows a juice-boxer when he sees one. 

Toryentalist: Matt is great, Matt is great—listen and repeat. 

thouartgob: Joel’s elegant refutation of Bob’s point. 

uncle ebeneezer: George Johnson, hopeless romantic! 

themightypuck: Robert Wright, Asteroid Cowboy. 

bjkeefe: Spelling is fun-damental! 

nikkibong: The joy of taking stuff out of context. 

bjkeefe: Who stole Matthew’s tie? 

uncle ebeneezer: The Art of Subtlety. 

bjkeefe: Heather slaps the entire BhTV community. 

bjkeefe: Can anyone find a case where this is not ultimately Mickey's advice to Dems? 

Ken Davis: The racial blind taste test. 

Stapler Malone: Go forward, not backward; upward not forward; and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.... 

Simon Willard: Bob steps outside himself here. 

JonIrenicus: Puzzle spelled out. 

uncle ebeneezer: George's response here was absolutely priceless. 

graz: Bob takes Tom Jones down a peg. 

bjkeefe: Entry for a video dictionary: "unflappable." 

almostaquantum: Hooray: Jonah Goldberg dismisses the ticking time-bomb scenario. 

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