On Fireside Chats, Mike talks to Seth, author of a recent article in Jacobin calling for a “feasible socialism.” Seth gives a short history of the utopian left in the 20th century, then reviews the failings of both centrally planned economies and market economies. Mike questions Seth about his proposal to socialize the financial sector. Is market socialism a better model than social democracy? They examine the current position of teachers in America as a frame for testing Seth’s idea. Finally, how should Europe’s path guide liberals in the US?